Former Congressional Staff, Mike Lofgren, speaks on the Deep State: a hybrid of corporate America and the national security state, which is “out of control” and “unconstrained.”

On Feb. 21, 2014, Bill Moyers interviewed Mike Lofgren, a former GOP congressional staff member with the powerful House and Senate Budget Committees. Lofgren joined Moyers to talk about what he calls the Deep State, a hybrid of corporate America and the national security state, which is “out of control” and “unconstrained.” In it, Lofgren says, elected and unelected figures collude to protect and serve powerful vested interests. “It is … the red thread that runs through the history of the last three decades. It is how we had deregulation, financialization of the economy, the Wall Street bust, the erosion or our civil liberties and perpetual war,” Lofgren said.

Lofgren says the Deep State’s heart lies in Washington, DC, but its tentacles reach out to Wall Street, which Lofgren describes as “the ultimate backstop to the whole operation,” Silicon Valley and over 400,000 contractors, private citizens who have top-secret security clearances. Like any other bureaucracy, it’s groupthink that drives the Deep State.

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